Proposal:Lean to

lean_to
Proposal status:	Rejected (inactive)
Proposed by:	Sletuffe
Tagging:	tourism=lean_to Data item
Applies to:	node
Definition:	"A lean-to is a shed with typically three walls located in the countryside intended to provide shelter."
Statistics:
Draft started:
Proposed on:	2009-08-01
RFC start:	2012-04-05
Vote start:	2012-04-20
Vote end:	2012-05-05

Proposal

"A lean-to is a shed with typically three walls located in the countryside intended to provide shelter."

Required properties :

• Rough shelter with typically three walls found in the countryside
• The access is usually restricted to foot, mountain bike or ski.
• Free rent, open to the public
• Not fully closed, at least one open wall
• Has floor, suitable for sleeping only with proper equipment to prevent cold and bugs
• No fireplace inside
• Normally made of wood.
• Optional owner access through restricted tracks might still be possible, also access by cablelift or helicopter.

See also:
Lean-to on Wikipedia

This proposal is part of a set of tags for Proposed features/wilderness_mountain_buildings

Rationale

This tag is used 606 times at 2012-04-01 07:59 UTC

Examples

• 
  A typical lean-to in the Adirondacks, U.S.
• 
  German flavour of a lean-to
• 
  Lasikangas, Raahe, Finland
• 
  Gapahuk, Norway

Tagging

Applies to nodes or area (forming the building outlines)

Key	Value	Discussion
tourism	lean_to	The main tag

Additional tags to discribe the equipment

Other useful generic tags :

• ele=* elevation
• name=* name
• capacity=* sleeping capacity
• description=* fill more information with text
• operator=* typically used to indicate huts owned or maintained by a specific organisation. E.g. administration of forest or national parks.

Applies to

Applies to nodes

Rendering

or or or or
Proposal for shelter:

Features/Pages affected

The new tag tourism=lean_to means rather the same as amenity=shelter with shelter_type=weather_shelter.

While amenity=shelter can be used for any kind of shelter also not man-made, tourism=lean_to has a specific meaning.

The tag shelter_type=weather_shelter was used 1031 times at 2012-04-01 07:59 UTC. These nodes should be changed to tourism=lean_to.

Comments

See Talk:Proposed features/Lean to

Voting

• I approve this proposal. sletuffe 15:34, 20 April 2012 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. --Rudolf 16:32, 20 April 2012 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. FedericoCozzi 18:01, 20 April 2012 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. but would remove the "No fireplace inside" clause. --Kaitu 18:19, 20 April 2012 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. --Pedja 19:25, 26 April 2012 (CET)
• I approve this proposal. --Geri-oc 18:34, 20 April 2012 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. I point out to Fabi2 that in the US, at least, a lean-to is different from a weather shelter in that it is intended for camping; the description of the 'weather_shelter' type specifically states that it is intended for sleeping only in emergencies. -- Ke9tv 00:55, 23 April 2012 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. Only proposes to change amenity=shelter + shelter_type=weather_shelter to tourism=lean_to without further gain. --Fabi2 19:44, 20 April 2012 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. Same reason as above. amenity=shelter is well established, no need to reinvent the wheel. To make it even worse, tourism=* seems the wrong key, because a lean-to may be used not only by tourists. --Fkv 19:52, 20 April 2012 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. I agree with both the comments above. -- Al3xius 10:54, 21 April 2012 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. Same arguments as Fabi2 and Fkv --Maxbe 00:43, 22 April 2012 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. I second Fabi2's arguments -- SKald 19:00, 22 April 2012 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. This is just another name for a shelter, no need for this tag. In Denmark we call this half open thing a "shelter" (since there is no native name in Danish for it). --polderrunner 20:12, 22 April 2012 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. I see far too much confusion if amenity=shelter + shelter_type=weather_shelter is used. Essentially any amenity=shelter without further classification cannot be properly evaluated as to what it is. Therefore I prefer lean to.--Extremecarver 08:05, 23 April 2012 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. A general and meaningful tag is worth more than a thousand specialized tags, that nobody but a handful of specialists worldwide know. Lets stick to the principle: a general tag and attributes to refine it. --BorisC 23:51, 23 April 2012 (BST)

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• I approve this proposal. -- Gian Mario Navillod 11:56, 24 April 2012 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. Same arguments of Extremecarver -- Gomatteo 12:32, 24 April 2012 (BST)
• I approve this proposal. --Alexy 14:57, 27 April 2012 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. -- Please use amenity=shelter as it is the same thing, type details can be added with shelter_type=* if needed. Kempelen 22:08, 28 April 2012 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. Better amenity=shelter + shelter_type=lean_to.--Javiersanp 17:31, 29 April 2012 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. -- shelter_type=* seems better suited. --Schuetzm 18:51, 29 April 2012 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. Same reasons as by Javiersanp, use amenity=shelter + shelter_type=lean_to when a difference to wheater shelter is needed. For shelter in rocks shelter_type=rock_shelter could be used.--Marmoti 18:56, 30 April 2012 (CEST)
• I oppose this proposal. Seem to be the same as amenity=shelter--R-michael 16:04, 2 May 2012 (BST)
• I oppose this proposal. I also think amenity=shelter is appropriate and this one is superfluous. --Kfj 11:06, 4 May 2012 (BST)

Voting result

Voting is closed. 11 users voted "yes", 13 user voted "no". Proposal has reached the minimum amount of 15 votes with a majority disapproval.

13 user suggest to use amenity=shelter. 4 user suggest to use optional shelter_type=lean_to